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Posted: 05 Oct 2009 at 7:57pm

Does anyone know a diet that will help or stop idiopathic chronic lever disease from progressing further? I am not diabetic, not hypertensive, am not overweight, and do not take any medications.

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Posted: 07 Oct 2009 at 4:59pm

If there is an unknown cause of liver disease ( idiopathic=unknown),

how do you know what to treat -- with nutrition or with drugs ?

By the time there is a noticeable problem with the liver, the patient needs proper drug intervention based on an accurate diagnosis.

Medicine may not be perfect, but it is better than playing with ineffective guesswork founded on hopes and wishes.

If this is your problem, I hope you get proper help and regain your health.

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Posted: 07 Oct 2009 at 8:07pm

My liver problem was detected on a routine physical exam(elevated liver function tests) Further testing by my primary care physician, gastroenterologist, and hepatologist at the Univ. of Pennsylvania has yielded no reason for the idiopathic chronic liver disease. I was hoping someone may have some insight in how to improve my diet for this desease. I have started in a low-salt DASH diet and use the 7 color groups from the Color Diet book daily. I also do aerobic exercise 30 minutes per day and in addition walk at least 10,000steps/day. I work full time so can not do anything else.

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Posted: 14 Nov 2009 at 10:21am

If all the tests are normal and nothing is happening to your body - rashes, bleeding, bruising, tiredness, poor sleep, shortness of breath, etc., then the way forward is to continue to do what you have started - exercise, eating differently and generally watching out for yourself.

Very often, this type of problem will sort itself out with a healthy lifestyle.

Trouble is, things will not improve suddenly. You will have to keep this new routine of yours for the rest of your life. You should start to see results after about three months.

If there is no obvious reason for this condition, then living a careful and healthy lifestyle will take care of most things. Be aware of how you feel and ask for help if you suddenly feel ill or if your leath changes.

Otherwise, if you do not feel ill, then perhaps you are not ill. Perhaps it was just a blip and it is not important any more.

Sorry not to have a magic answer.

Please let us know what you do and how you get on.

Regards

Edited by Jericho - 14 Nov 2009 at 10:22am

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GMSHOW Newbie Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Topic: idiopathic chronic liver disease Posted: 05 Oct 2009 at 7:57pm
	Does anyone know a diet that will help or stop idiopathic chronic lever disease from progressing further? I am not diabetic, not hypertensive, am not overweight, and do not take any medications.
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Jericho Admin Group Administrator Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 501	Posted: 07 Oct 2009 at 4:59pm
	If there is an unknown cause of liver disease ( idiopathic=unknown), how do you know what to treat -- with nutrition or with drugs ? By the time there is a noticeable problem with the liver, the patient needs proper drug intervention based on an accurate diagnosis. Medicine may not be perfect, but it is better than playing with ineffective guesswork founded on hopes and wishes. If this is your problem, I hope you get proper help and regain your health.
	Jericho Senior Instructor United Kingdom Long after people have forgotten what you said, they will remember how you made them feel.
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GMSHOW Newbie Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Posted: 07 Oct 2009 at 8:07pm
	My liver problem was detected on a routine physical exam(elevated liver function tests) Further testing by my primary care physician, gastroenterologist, and hepatologist at the Univ. of Pennsylvania has yielded no reason for the idiopathic chronic liver disease. I was hoping someone may have some insight in how to improve my diet for this desease. I have started in a low-salt DASH diet and use the 7 color groups from the Color Diet book daily. I also do aerobic exercise 30 minutes per day and in addition walk at least 10,000steps/day. I work full time so can not do anything else.
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Jericho Admin Group Administrator Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 501	Posted: 14 Nov 2009 at 10:21am
	If all the tests are normal and nothing is happening to your body - rashes, bleeding, bruising, tiredness, poor sleep, shortness of breath, etc., then the way forward is to continue to do what you have started - exercise, eating differently and generally watching out for yourself. Very often, this type of problem will sort itself out with a healthy lifestyle. Trouble is, things will not improve suddenly. You will have to keep this new routine of yours for the rest of your life. You should start to see results after about three months. If there is no obvious reason for this condition, then living a careful and healthy lifestyle will take care of most things. Be aware of how you feel and ask for help if you suddenly feel ill or if your leath changes. Otherwise, if you do not feel ill, then perhaps you are not ill. Perhaps it was just a blip and it is not important any more. Sorry not to have a magic answer. Please let us know what you do and how you get on. Regards Edited by Jericho - 14 Nov 2009 at 10:22am
	Jericho Senior Instructor United Kingdom Long after people have forgotten what you said, they will remember how you made them feel.
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